tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post1750521891826982256..comments2023-07-01T03:18:42.772-07:00Comments on First Draft: Party with CAROLYN HOWARD-JOHNSONNadine Lamanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-19054102271647119222009-08-21T21:03:50.227-07:002009-08-21T21:03:50.227-07:00BTW, if you want to see the Mount Rushmore of auto...BTW, if you want to see the Mount Rushmore of autosignatures, you should email Carolyn, just to see her autosignature.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-39854979353437612062009-08-21T20:59:23.974-07:002009-08-21T20:59:23.974-07:00*Though - Oh snap, I should use the preview funct...*Though - Oh snap, I should use the preview function.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-20352841800335106762009-08-21T20:58:40.711-07:002009-08-21T20:58:40.711-07:00Goodnight, Carolyn, sleep well my friend. I love y...Goodnight, Carolyn, sleep well my friend. I love you too.<br /><br />Just a note, today's winner will be announced on Monday. Thought I don't normally post on weekends, during the party, I am posting...but respoonses will be less frequent.<br /><br />Thank you all, you are the reason.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-84892574992850944672009-08-21T20:54:00.039-07:002009-08-21T20:54:00.039-07:00Well, see, that's it. Marketing and promotion ...Well, see, that's it. Marketing and promotion should be a celebration. And you should choose the parts of it that feel good. That's what The Frugal Book Promoter does. It offers up choices, even tells people to pick and choose ACCORDING TO THEIR PERSONALITIES (AND POCKETBOOKS). So, you see, we're on the same page, after all.<br /><br />Love and goodnight.<br /><br />Oh, yes. I remember the August monsoons. Fun!Carolyn Howard-Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041591136206289558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-65566467037495387452009-08-21T20:50:14.787-07:002009-08-21T20:50:14.787-07:00Carolyn, thank you for doing this. Two more weeks ...Carolyn, thank you for doing this. Two more weeks to party, so now that your broadband is fixed, please come back often.<br /><br />Okay, I'll answer the M-question for real this time. The M-word feels like a pressure cooker to me. I think the biggest thing about this for me is that I know people who do marketing as their career. They know the tools of the trade, like Carrie said it would be best to announce the winners daily rather than at the end. I might have come up with that naturally or not, but she KNEW that was the right thing to do. Marketing in that sense has expectations of measurable results. <br /><br />Just like in my profession, social work, there are people who have a natural ability to do good things, but they don't know the tools of the trade, and I have seem some WOOPPER mistakes done by some of these people, so I respect formal education.<br /><br />There are people who like to promote and honestly, with your book, I think they can go far. I just don't know how to explain that I don't feel comfortable doing that. And you've said before that I need to broaden my definition of marketing and promoting: that I define it too narrowly. You are probably right. But when I have sat down and worked up marketing campaigns that are perfectly sound, and they produce zero results, I have to think that life is too short to do that. The lack of results really hangs a cloud over writing, and I hate that it takes some of the joy out of writing. I hesitate to publish because I don't want to 'have to' market it.<br /><br />What have I been doing all day? What I have been doing for the past two weeks and will do for the next two weeks? Celebrating! I'm having fun. I'm not selling my book. I'm not selling me (Doesn't everyone already love me?) There was no pressure to produce results, though I'm thrilled beyond belief how this turned out.<br /><br />I appreciate that you say, and have said many times, that I'm a natural at this. But we define what today has been in two different ways. But you know what, I love that you still take the time to help me and coach me. And I do listen more than you might think. I love you, Carolyn. Thank you for being my friend.<br /><br />(OH! It is raining here! I love the monsoons!)Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-43656927689792086992009-08-21T20:16:17.777-07:002009-08-21T20:16:17.777-07:00Nadine, you think of marketing. You just don't...Nadine, you think of marketing. You just don't admit it, won't cop to it. You are a natural marketer and resist being called one. What do you think you've been doing here all day?<br /><br />Peggy, I'm twenty-one years cured from cancer. In fact, I had to stop and count because I am, well, CURED. I don't need to think about it. (-; So, good for us survivors, huh?<br /><br />And, Kate. I'm sorry I missed you. Hope you're feeling better soon. Have some of my California warmth and sun, too. <br /><br />And thank yo--to all you. Especially Nadine for giving me this opportunity to meet you. Don't hesitate to keep in touch. <br /><br />Glyn, when you finish that list, please send it to me at hojonew @ aol. com. In fact anyone may use that e-mail (it's my only one). <br /><br />You will get an answer back and it will contain some real marketing, an autosignature, which you should all be using. So...that's my last tip of the day. Use an autosignatue. Sample available by writing.<br /><br />It's early (8 pm here) but I'm off to bed, too. Well, a Jacuzzi first. You guys must have worn me out. LOL<br /><br />Best,<br />Carolyn<br />www.howtodoitfrugally.comCarolyn Howard-Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041591136206289558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-66626518300467176002009-08-21T20:03:39.375-07:002009-08-21T20:03:39.375-07:00Carolyn, in your answer to my question about ficti...Carolyn, in your answer to my question about fiction writing, I'm glad to see that writing fiction is (for some writers) a reprieve from thinking about marketing. I hardly think about marketing anyway, as you know, so that works for me. (I know, my bad.) If something I do turns out to be the M-Word, then fine. <br /><br />You know that I don't attempt to be difficult about the M-word, but it is not fun for me. I just didn't get the marketing gene.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-53856862057883304702009-08-21T19:22:29.928-07:002009-08-21T19:22:29.928-07:00Whew! I was pretty tired when I read it, so I wasn...Whew! I was pretty tired when I read it, so I wasn't sure about the five years. Back when I had time to look at other blogs (see Susan Gabriel's day last Wed.) I remember seeing your step-mom blog too. Actually, I emailed the link to a couple of step-mom's I know. Small world that I followed your blog and you end up finding mine! (Yeah, I know Carolyn, through Twitter.)<br />Pizza is here and I've had a nap. I'm still partying, but the guys turned on the (American) football game, I might take this party to the patio! Anyone wanta swim?Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-54426490623588117312009-08-21T19:05:08.372-07:002009-08-21T19:05:08.372-07:00Nadine,
Yes, http://serendipitysmiles.com is mine...Nadine,<br /><br />Yes, http://serendipitysmiles.com is mine. Nice to be thought of, but just so you know, I'm five years out (cancer free...go me!)...I'm flexing my fingers and brain a bit on getting the story fine-tuned. <br /><br />I also write a blog just for stepmoms: http://thestepmomstoolbox.com<br /><br />Very happy to have "met" you today!<br /><br />Happy Weekend!<br />PeggyPeggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09848194956406520874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-77672396679535163052009-08-21T17:04:34.413-07:002009-08-21T17:04:34.413-07:00Peggy,
Is this your blog? http://serendipitysmiles...Peggy,<br />Is this your blog? http://serendipitysmiles.com/<br /><br />I recently started followning your blog, or the one above. If this is yours, just know I'm thinking of you.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-92175917585933290302009-08-21T16:07:33.535-07:002009-08-21T16:07:33.535-07:00I'm still here, didn't make it to the nap ...I'm still here, didn't make it to the nap yet. I was reading something.<br /><br />Sorry about the bug, I'm sending lots of Arizona sunshine along with good wishes. <br /><br />Hope you feel better soon.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-68518615726538351312009-08-21T15:59:10.945-07:002009-08-21T15:59:10.945-07:00Hello everyone,
just popping my head very briefly...Hello everyone,<br /><br />just popping my head very briefly round the door.<br /><br />Sorry I missed the party, I'm down with a bug, napping a lot and drinking soup. <br /><br />I'll catch up on all the blog posts over the weekend and espect to bounce back by Monday.<br /><br />Love to you all and have a great weekend!!!<br /><br />Kate<br /><br />XXXAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-17089373058546132792009-08-21T15:42:23.055-07:002009-08-21T15:42:23.055-07:00You're welcome, Peggy. See you in a bit.You're welcome, Peggy. See you in a bit.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-8940795811550976392009-08-21T15:41:34.503-07:002009-08-21T15:41:34.503-07:00See you later, Carolyn. It is nearly MN in England...See you later, Carolyn. It is nearly MN in England, Only 3:30 pm here, so western America hasn't started the drive home yet. <br /><br />Anyone who has a question or comment for Carolyn, or me, please post it. We'll both be back...I'm going to nap.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-75486668740764672322009-08-21T15:36:04.480-07:002009-08-21T15:36:04.480-07:00Guys and gals, I'm running off to a movie with...Guys and gals, I'm running off to a movie with my husband. You guys abandoned me for dinner or whatever before I abandoned you. Remember that! LOL. I'll check back after about 6 pm Pacific time, OK? <br /><br />Thanks to all of you who chit-chatted with me for a while.<br /><br />Best,<br />C.Carolyn Howard-Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041591136206289558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-74512517644249429772009-08-21T15:34:39.353-07:002009-08-21T15:34:39.353-07:00For some it is there when they write fiction. For ...For some it is there when they write fiction. For others, they simply have a book they must write. I think the latter is safe. Trends change and what we thought would be a big seller may turn out to be out of tune with the market when we get it done.So we'd better enjoy writing it. First and foremost.<br /><br />What do you think?<br /><br />C.Carolyn Howard-Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041591136206289558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-51991624645294224502009-08-21T14:52:20.711-07:002009-08-21T14:52:20.711-07:00Carolyn, I think it is just us right now, but I st...Carolyn, I think it is just us right now, but I still have a fiction question. I'm assuming that there is an awareness of marketability in the background of your mind when you do a nonfiction piece you plan to shop. <br /><br />When you write fiction, is that commercial awareness still there, or do you add marketability in during rewrites. Basically, do you write your first draft of fiction with abandon?Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-15235037159331904942009-08-21T14:47:56.417-07:002009-08-21T14:47:56.417-07:00G'night Ivy. Have a good weekend. See ya Monda...G'night Ivy. Have a good weekend. See ya Monday!Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-71584945722015730252009-08-21T14:47:20.144-07:002009-08-21T14:47:20.144-07:00I'm on EST and getting ready to go out to dinn...I'm on EST and getting ready to go out to dinner...Just want to thank you and Carolyn for giving me a ring and a jacket...and a push in the right direction!<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />PeggyPeggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09848194956406520874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-47579575337871006342009-08-21T14:46:03.390-07:002009-08-21T14:46:03.390-07:00Chicas, I have to run now. Carolyn, I wish you all...Chicas, I have to run now. Carolyn, I wish you all the best with the audition and all other projects you're on! <br /><br />Hugs,<br />IvyIvanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18243664836278611954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-40710465811738749522009-08-21T14:31:45.134-07:002009-08-21T14:31:45.134-07:00There you go, Carolyn, tell Lance about Ivy's ...There you go, Carolyn, tell Lance about Ivy's target audience.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-19371233849562649292009-08-21T14:30:02.938-07:002009-08-21T14:30:02.938-07:00I used to play a nun :) in a high school play. The...I used to play a nun :) in a high school play. They said I was the most convincive nun ever. LOL<br /><br />We have had a course on college on American culture,e.g. what you eat, how your weddings look like etc. which was sort of funny because the book was decades old. Most of us knew much more than what was in it. I suppose your husband's book would be a refreshing change in the curriculum.Ivanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18243664836278611954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-16677836382309772402009-08-21T14:28:20.458-07:002009-08-21T14:28:20.458-07:00Carolyn, just wondering, but perhaps Glyn or Nick ...Carolyn, just wondering, but perhaps Glyn or Nick or they might 'know someone' (not sure if you were here when Nick was, but his day is the 31st.Nadine Lamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709289434339532281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-11220071627707116592009-08-21T14:24:54.588-07:002009-08-21T14:24:54.588-07:00Ahhhh, yes. Dubrovnik. Skiing, no?
The audition. O...Ahhhh, yes. Dubrovnik. Skiing, no?<br />The audition. One never knows. I get called for a lot of callbacks (meaning sort of a finalist) but am seldom the bride. I've had a few national ads, though. And it keeps me involved with my husband who adores acting. He's had a few ads, too, but really love live theater most. <br />Bacl to books. I took up acting/modeling. He took up writing. He has a book published in China. Everything Asians need to know about America A to Z. And they need to know a lot. We're an odd culture. He's doing one for Europeans and is looking for endorsements.Carolyn Howard-Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041591136206289558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5422983897713906924.post-5926718516388511092009-08-21T14:18:43.483-07:002009-08-21T14:18:43.483-07:00You are welcome at any time!You are welcome at any time!Ivanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18243664836278611954noreply@blogger.com